本期吴区块链空间，嘉宾MegaETH联合创始人孔书耀和加密行业从业者Jarseed分享了他们作为迪拜长期居民和交易所内部人士的观点。他们一起回顾了伊朗冲突紧张局势升级时迪拜的实际情况，并剖析了迪拜最初为何成为加密货币中心，以及其工作和生活方式与香港等地有何不同。 Shuyao 回忆起冲突升级后不久她如何撤离迪拜，描述了来袭导弹和无人机、防空拦截、政府警报、电话警告、航班中断以及必须通过第三国离开的现实所带来的直接冲击。贾西德（Jarseed）借鉴了自己早些时候离开迪拜的决定，解释说，许多流动性较高的加密货币专业人士已经对地区安全风险持谨慎态度，并在局势恶化之前和前后开始转移到香港等地。两人还讨论了战争如何影响当地情绪和市场心理。他们指出，有关“城市袭击”的报道实际上往往是由拦截的碎片造成的损害，而且长期的影响
居民和短期外籍人士的反应截然不同。他们还重新审视了地缘政治冲突背景下有关房地产、黄金、石油、稳定币和比特币的避险叙述。总体而言，这场冲突并没有立即动摇迪拜作为加密货币中心的地位，但它促使行业参与者更加具体地重新评估这座城市的安全、稳定以及在不断上升的地缘政治压力下可能的替代方案。音频转录是由 GPT 完成的，可能包含错误。你为什么选择搬到迪拜？毛迪：你能谈谈你搬到迪拜的时候以及是什么促使你做出这个决定的吗？ Jarseed：我在 2024 年 3 月左右搬到了迪拜。当时，它主要是受到交易所全球扩张战略的推动。 The team needed an overseas base, and by then
In this episode of WuBlockchain Space, guests Shuyao Kong, co-founder of MegaETH, and crypto industry practitioner Jarseed share their perspectives as a long-term Dubai resident and an exchange insider. Together, they look back at what Dubai was actually like as tensions tied to the Iran conflict escalated, and break down why Dubai became a crypto hub in the first place, as well as how its work and lifestyle differ from places like Hong Kong.
Shuyao recalls how she evacuated Dubai shortly after the conflict escalated, describing the immediate shock of incoming missiles and drones, air-defense interceptions, government alerts, phone warnings, flight disruptions, and the reality of having to leave through a third country. Jarseed, drawing on his own earlier decision to leave Dubai, explains that many highly mobile crypto professionals had already been cautious about regional security risks and began shifting to places like Hong Kong before and around the time the situation worsened.
The two also discuss how war affects both local sentiment and market psychology. They note that reports of “attacks on the city” were often actually damage caused by intercepted debris, and that long-term residents and short-term expats reacted very differently. They also revisit safe-haven narratives around real estate, gold, oil, stablecoins, and Bitcoin in the context of geopolitical conflict. Overall, the conflict has not immediately shaken Dubai’s status as a crypto center, but it has pushed industry participants to reassess, in much more concrete terms, the city’s safety, stability, and possible alternatives under rising geopolitical pressure.
The audio transcription is done by GPT and may contain errors.
Why Did You Choose to Move to Dubai?
Maodi: Can you talk about when you moved to Dubai and what motivated the decision?
Jarseed: I moved to Dubai around March 2024. At the time, it was mainly driven by the exchange’s global expansion strategy. The team needed an overseas base, and by then exchanges like Binance, OKX, Bybit, Bitget, and MEXC had already set up offices in Dubai. That meant a lot of crypto people, exchanges, and project teams were already gathering there. I felt the industry vibe in Dubai would be stronger, so I decided to go.
We actually had several options back then, including Singapore, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, and Dubai, and I ended up choosing Dubai. On one hand, exchanges, companies, and projects were all pretty concentrated there, so the crypto scene felt dense and active. On the other hand, I really liked the UAE time zone, UTC+4. It sits nicely between Eastern and Western trading hours, which makes work much smoother. And honestly, I also just wanted a change of scenery. Compared with more familiar Asian cities like Hong Kong or Singapore, Dubai felt newer and more international to me, so that’s where I went.
Shuyao: I moved to Dubai much earlier, about 10 years ago. After graduating from college in the US, I first spent two years living in Africa, specifically in Nigeria. Then in 2013, after those two years, I was transferred to my company’s regional headquarters in Dubai. I was in Dubai from 2013 to 2015, and then stayed there until 2018. After that, I went back to the US for business school. From 2018 on, I was based in the US, working at the Consensys office there.
Then around 2022 or 2023 — I honestly don’t remember exactly — I felt the policy environment in the US had turned unfavorable. I had also already lived in the US for ten years and kept running into visa issues. I didn’t get selected in the H-1B lottery, but I’d always kept a home in Dubai, so I eventually went back there to start my own company. Dubai was just a much easier place to build from.
How Is Dubai Different From Other Crypto Hubs, and What Makes It Livable?
Maodi: Compared with other crypto hubs like Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, or Silicon Valley, what really sets Dubai apart? And from a lifestyle or security perspective, what makes it appealing enough for you to stay there so long?
Shuyao: I think Dubai’s biggest advantage — whether 10 years ago or today — is that it’s fundamentally a highly developed city. Hong Kong and Singapore are obviously very prosperous too, but Dubai feels different. It has this constant sense of building new space out of the desert, and that gives it a very distinct energy.
When I first moved there, there weren’t even any Chinese supermarkets. But when I went back later, Chinese food and Chinese grocery stores had become incredibly convenient. My parents come stay for a month every year, and they basically have no trouble adjusting. Even the broader Asian grocery network is very mature now — you can order online and have vegetables delivered straight to your door.
So compared with many established global cities, I think Dubai still has more room to grow and reinvent itself, and it also feels very safe. At the same time, it’s still a fast-moving, high-liquidity emerging city. Its regulatory environment and expat mix are both evolving quickly, and that kind of fluidity naturally creates opportunity. You constantly feel like new things are showing up around you — new restaurants, new developments, and plenty of Chinese buyers moving in on the real estate side too.
For people working in crypto, it’s also a pretty welcoming place. In a lot of other major cities, working in crypto still comes with a certain stigma. But in Dubai, I’ve never felt looked down on because I’m in the industry. Overall, it’s just a comfortable city to live in, and one that’s also pretty friendly to Chinese people.
Maodi: Yeah, I get exactly what you mean. I went to Dubai the year before last and again last year for TOKEN2049 and Binance Blockchain Week. I even ordered luosifen once — delivery was handled by a South Asian courier, but getting it sent straight to the hotel was super easy. And yeah, the city does feel quite crypto-friendly. At least when I attended more industry-native events, I didn’t feel any discrimination at all.
You’ve spent 10 years in Dubai, so you’re in a great position to speak to this. From that longer-term perspective, when do you think Dubai really started becoming a crypto hub and attracting so many exchanges to set up there? Was there some key turning point? Because back in 2015, it probably wasn’t what it is today, right?
Shuyao: Actually, as early as 2017, when I first entered crypto, Dubai was already a major center — it’s just that a lot of people hadn’t realized it yet. At the time, I was doing Asia BD at Consensys, and one of my main counterparts was the Dubai government. My first client was Dubai Smart Government, and they were already looking at using blockchain to upgrade government services.
Before that, I had worked in consulting with more of a banking focus, so I also had exposure to local banks and the central bank. Back then, the Dubai government was treating blockchain as a major strategic priority, which is why a lot of Consensys colleagues from around the world would come through Dubai. It was already very hot in 2017, and I was speaking at conferences there all the time about blockchain.
That said, I think Dubai only became the default destination for a much broader group of crypto people after DeFi Summer. Once people started making real money, tax considerations became a major factor, and Dubai naturally became one of the top choices. Then US crypto policy started getting worse, while Europe’s economy also weakened pretty visibly, and that pushed even more people toward Dubai.
Exchanges were definitely one wave of that migration, but the people I interacted with more were traders and independent builders. A lot of that second wave was, in essence, driven by tax optimization too.
Another point people often overlook is that India’s crypto tax regime is actually very heavy. So today, a huge share of founders in Dubai — at least from what I see around me, probably 60% to 70% — are from India.
Crypto Talent in Dubai Is Still Largely Exchange-Driven
Maodi: I’ve always had the impression that a huge share of crypto workers in Dubai are employed by exchanges. Does that feel true to you? And for you personally, working at an exchange in Dubai, what feels most different compared with working and living elsewhere? What do you see as Dubai’s biggest advantage?
Jarseed: That probably also has something to do with my own circle. Since I work at an exchange, a lot of the people I know are exchange people too. But based on my own experience, Dubai really does have a very high concentration of exchange employees. Binance, for example, has a lot of people in both Dubai and Abu Dhabi.
And a lot of them aren’t just there temporarily for work — they’ve actually settled down. They’ve bought homes, moved their families over, and their kids are going to school there.
From both a work and lifestyle perspective, the biggest difference is that in Dubai, when you say you work in crypto, there’s no sense of having to be cautious about it or keep it low-key. That contrast feels especially obvious if you previously worked in Asia, especially in mainland China.
Another big thing is that Dubai has a very high level of crypto acceptance. Whether it’s buying a car, buying property, or using OTC desks to convert funds, a lot of those use cases are already fairly mature. Overall, the city is very open both to crypto itself and to people working in the industry — that’s the most immediate feeling I get from being there.
As the Crisis Closed In, They Left Dubai One After Another
Maodi: When did you leave Dubai? Was it because of this latest round of conflict involving Iran?
Jarseed: Yeah, I already left. To be honest, tension involving Iran has never really gone away. Anyone who’s been paying attention knows this round may have been more serious, but the broader conflict involving Iran, Israel, and the US has been there all along. I left Dubai in December last year. It’s hard to explain exactly, but I did have a feeling that something might happen, so I chose to leave early.
I’ve since moved to Hong Kong. I felt Hong Kong would still be one of the main storylines for the crypto industry this year, and it matched what I wanted to do next, so I applied for a role there.
Not many of my friends or colleagues actually left Dubai. A lot of them had already bought property there, settled down, started families. Real estate has a way of anchoring people to a place. Of course, not everyone in this industry is tied down like that, but a lot of people stay because they’ve already put down roots — homes, kids in school, that kind of thing.
For me, I moved there relatively late and never bought a place, so leaving was much easier.
Shuyao: I left too. At the time, a colleague was in Dubai on a business trip and staying with me. Honestly, I didn’t take it that seriously at first, but in the end I left with my colleague on the second day after the war broke out.
That morning I was still writing an article. My colleague and I were drinking coffee and working when we heard war had broken out. My first reaction was basically: this kind of thing happens in the Middle East all the time, it’s not going to reach Dubai. So I didn’t think much of it. Then by the afternoon, missiles started flying overhead.
Even then, I still wasn’t that nervous. I even went to a Pilates class. During the class, I could hear rumbling outside from time to time, and I still didn’t think it was a big deal. Looking back, I think that reaction came from the sense of trust Dubai builds up over time. Whether you’re a local or an expat, there’s this default belief that the government can keep things under control and won’t let the situation spiral. That’s one of the deepest sources of Dubai’s sense of security.
That night, I was on the phone with my co-founder while interception blasts were still going off overhead, and I still wasn’t too concerned. Later I checked Twitter/X and saw a long thread from a female analyst talking about the asymmetry of the war from a cost perspective: Iran could keep launching relatively cheap drones and missiles, while every interception on the defense side cost millions or even tens of millions of dollars, and missile defense systems themselves are limited in number. That was when I started to feel something was off.
Still, I didn’t leave that night. The next morning, I was still wondering whether it might already be over. But because I live by the coast, facing toward Iran, I heard two huge blasts again that morning. Even my balcony door visibly shook. That was when it hit me that this probably wasn’t ending anytime soon. So I immediately told my colleague to pack light, and we crossed the border into Oman and caught the first flight out.
Maodi: Honestly, your experience sounds like something out of a movie — really intense. The way we usually see Dubai in the news is from far away, just through headlines and clips. And before hearing you describe it, my impression was that even if Dubai was being targeted, it didn’t seem that frequent. The one thing I remembered most clearly was a drone strike near Dubai’s financial district. But from the way you describe it, it sounds like these attacks were actually ongoing. Is that right?
Shuyao: Yeah, basically around the clock. A lot of the time it happened in the middle of the night. Iran kind of has its own rhythm too — they like launching at night, sometimes in the morning, and by noon or afternoon things usually ease off, I guess because they’re taking a break, so it’s less dense then. Most of the attacks don’t actually land right next to you, so overall the number of casualties stays relatively low. But yeah, wasn’t there a hotel that got hit once, around Palm Jumeirah? Most of the time, what you hear is the sound of interception missiles exploding overhead — it feels like something is detonating right above your head.
Think about it: you’re working, or sleeping, and then suddenly there’s an explosion overhead. What do you do? Run downstairs into a basement? Or just stay put? And in the past couple of days it’s gotten worse again. If you watch some of the videos, the missiles look like a meteor shower heading toward Dubai, and then you see the defense systems taking them out one by one.
Maodi: I don’t think I’ve seen news reports saying Dubai residents were killed because of this, right?
Shuyao: There were, there were. Some people were just unlucky and got hit by falling debris. There’s really nothing you can do about that.
Maodi: Based on what you saw around you, did a lot of crypto people leave Dubai in a hurry after this escalated in March?
Shuyao: Around me, it feels like almost no one is still there. But a lot of my friends who’ve lived in Dubai for 10 years, especially those outside crypto, haven’t really left. Like Jarseed said, people have kids, and a lot of them don’t want to pull their children out because school is still a major consideration.
On the work side, I know some big traditional companies arranged chartered flights to evacuate staff — the really cash-rich companies just booked planes and got people out. Some companies my friends work for did the same thing, basically telling people, “Okay, leave now.” Sometimes Dubai’s airspace gets shut down because there are too many missiles, so people first have to cross into Oman by land, and then the company arranges a private plane from there. Anyone who really wants to leave can get out.
How the War Has Affected Dubai Crypto Workers’ Decisions and Day-to-Day Life
Maodi: After leaving, when you kept seeing Dubai remain under attack, did that make you feel even more sure you made the right call? And for the friends who stayed, what’s their situation now? Has daily life been heavily affected?
Shuyao: Honestly, not really. I think staying would have been fine too. I’m someone who has a lot of confidence in Dubai. I left mainly because my colleague was with me at the time. But the way I see it is: will this war end anytime soon? Definitely not. Will Dubai go fully back to normal in the short term? Also no. But over the medium to long term, I’m still very bullish on Dubai. To me, this is like the kind of “bear market” every organization or system goes through at some point. Right now, Dubai just happens to be in its own bear-market phase.
The people around me who stayed are still basically living normally. They send me photos all the time of themselves going out and hanging around. It doesn’t look like their lives have been hit that hard.
I’m less sure about people in crypto specifically. In our industry, a lot of people may have “moved” to Dubai, but in reality they only spend maybe two months a year there and are elsewhere the rest of the time. So they’re mostly just benefiting from the tax setup. But for people who genuinely live there long term, I don’t think the impact has been that dramatic. Speaking for myself, once things improve a bit, I’ll definitely go back. I really think Dubai is an excellent place for people to live. I’ve got to say it again: I genuinely love that city.
Jarseed: My feeling is pretty similar to Shuyao’s. We often call ourselves digital nomads, right? And nomads naturally move around more. But for people who actually live in Dubai long term, especially those with families, things are mostly fine. There hasn’t been this huge panic or a universal rush to leave. People are still working and living as usual.
Maodi: In a situation like this, does the Dubai government send out alerts? Like phone notifications, or advice to go down to a basement for shelter? Are there official warnings like that?
Shuyao: Yes. Your phone will go off with a siren-like alert sound, kind of like an ambulance, telling you something is happening. And by then, you may already be hearing explosions overhead.
Maodi: Does that happen often? And do people actually go hide?
Shuyao: At first, yes. In the beginning, people in our building would all go downstairs. But later everyone got a bit numb to it. Because it usually isn’t a direct hit on you. As long as the missile defense system is still working, you’re basically safe, and people know that.
Maodi: But you also said people have still died, right? So those cases were more like really bad luck? The odds are extremely low, and it’s usually because of falling debris or damaged structures?
Shuyao: Right. If something gets intercepted in the sky, it still has to come down somewhere. That’s what happened with that fire at the five-star hotel on Palm Jumeirah. There was also a building near my home that ended up with a huge black hole burned into it for the same reason. The big fire at Dubai Airport, and the fires at oil facilities in Abu Dhabi, were all tied to that too. That’s also part of the backdrop for why oil prices went up.
Jarseed: And like we mentioned earlier, with DIFC, it wasn’t that the area itself was directly targeted. It was that debris from an interception fell there and caused some damage.
Maodi: So overall, people still seem to have quite a bit of confidence in the interception system, which is why they’re not overly worried. Of course, I’m not a military expert. But do people worry about saturation attacks — like the possibility that too many incoming strikes could overwhelm the defense system?
Jarseed: I think the point Shuyao mentioned earlier is key. I’ve seen similar analysis about the asymmetry of this kind of war. Drones are very cheap, while interceptor missiles are extremely expensive, limited in quantity, and hard to replenish quickly.
A lot of Iran’s targets this time were actually tied to the broader radar network and oil-related infrastructure. If things escalate even further, it could potentially involve things like desalination facilities too. If it reaches that level, then I think the situation could become much more serious.
But at least for now, it hasn’t reached the point where normal urban infrastructure, residential neighborhoods, apartment buildings, or office towers are being treated as primary targets. So overall, people haven’t felt that level of panic. It doesn’t feel like all-out war or indiscriminate bombing.
Maodi: Could this also come down to social class? For example, lower- or middle-income people may be more tied down by work, family, and daily life, so it’s harder for them to leave. But wealthier people with more assets and more mobility might feel that even a 1% or 0.1% risk is unacceptable, so they choose to leave Dubai for a while just in case. Does that happen too? In other words, does whether someone leaves Dubai depend partly on their class or income level?
Jarseed: From what I’ve heard, yeah, that does seem to happen. Some people temporarily relocate to places like Oman for a while. But I don’t know enough to say how widespread it is.
How the War Affected Dubai Property Prices, Gold, and Evacuation Routes
Maodi: You mentioned that a lot of your friends — especially people working at exchanges — have bought property in Dubai. I’ve also seen people on Twitter recently saying Dubai home prices have fallen quite a bit, maybe 20% to 30%, and some are saying gold in Dubai is trading at a discount versus other places, possibly because shipping has become difficult. Have you heard anything like that? Do those claims sound credible to you?
Jarseed: Yeah, that’s basically true. When people look at Dubai real estate, they usually follow the main market index, and that index really has dropped a lot recently — something close to 20% to 30%.
Shuyao: Right, property prices were obviously going to fall, and gold too. Dubai is the biggest gold gray market in the world. A huge amount of gold flows in, gets processed a bit, and then effectively gets “cleaned.” Now that it’s hard to move gold out, prices there are lower. So yes, comrades, this is why you should still believe in Bitcoin.
Maodi: Shuyao, why did you leave through Oman at the time? Was it because flights out of Dubai were restricted, or because tickets were too expensive and too scarce? I remember when the conflict first broke out, there were screenshots going around online claiming flights from Dubai to places like Hong Kong had surged to absurd prices — like into the millions. Were those real?
Shuyao: There were basically no flights at the time. I left relatively early, and back then there just weren’t any available.
What was interesting was that one of our investors happened to be there too, and the two of us were figuring out how to get out. He wanted to try the border first, and I told him, go test it and let me know if you can get through. Later he got to the border and told me it was closed. At that point I thought, okay, this is bad — we really need to find another way, because where I live is especially exposed, so I needed to get somewhere safer first.
But one thing I realized is that during wartime, rumors spread everywhere. Like those stories you mentioned about tickets costing millions — most of that was just people repeating things they hadn’t verified. The truth is, if you actually go to the border and try, you find out pretty quickly what’s real. That’s what I did: I just called an Uber, went straight there, crossed the border, bought a ticket, and left. A lot of people just don’t want to test things themselves, so they stay glued to their phones watching the news. I actually think that’s a much more passive way to deal with it.
At the time, though, flights really were unavailable. Later, flights gradually started coming back, but once they did, priority went to people who had already been booked before — like stranded tourists — so they were the first to be flown out.
Maodi: You also mentioned that where you were living was especially likely to get hit. Why was that? Was it near some kind of military site, or something else?
Shuyao: Yeah. I lived in JBR, which was considered one of the harder-hit areas. And I was right by the water — if I looked out across the sea in that direction, I could see straight toward it.
In Wartime Dubai, Is Demand for Bitcoin Rising, and Are People Starting to Buy the Dip on Local Assets?
Maodi: With Dubai property prices falling, gold trading at a discount, and physical assets becoming harder to move around, has that actually boosted demand for crypto assets like Bitcoin or stablecoins?
Shuyao: Personally, I think so, though I’d admit I probably have a founder’s natural bias toward optimism. I remember seeing a tweet saying that a lot of people at exchanges were cashing out. My view is that once people start worrying about risk during a war, that kind of demand naturally shows up. I vaguely remember Dubai also putting out some kind of rule later on — something like limits on withdrawals — but I don’t recall the details clearly. Still, I think every time war breaks out, demand for these kinds of assets becomes more obvious.
There was something else too. When I crossed from the UAE into Oman, I suddenly thought about a decentralized SIM project in our ecosystem — basically something that lets people stay connected wherever they are. That day it really hit me that if things ever seriously deteriorate, decentralized internet access would have a very real use case. My colleague even downloaded a product from our ecosystem called UBTel, and it actually worked pretty well. You can pay with stablecoins on your Mac and still stay online wherever you go.
Jarseed: From my perspective, not really — not yet. Right now I think people are more focused on finding trading opportunities. What they’re really watching is stuff like the possible closure of the Strait of Hormuz, how that could drive oil prices higher, and then what kinds of trades might come out of the chain reaction from rising oil prices.
Maodi: But would that also include people trying to buy the dip in Dubai real estate or gold? Since prices have already dropped pretty clearly, are there people looking at it that way?
Jarseed: I think there’s still a noticeable gap between the headline property index people see and actual transaction prices on the ground. Because when people really buy property, they still focus on premium locations and better-quality projects, right? So I think the index reflects more of a broad direction, or a kind of market consensus.
But if you’re treating real estate as an investment, people will still go for high-quality assets, because scarce, core assets are what really hold value. So even though I haven’t been following Dubai transaction prices that closely lately, I still think its prime areas remain very attractive.
Even though I believe the Middle East issue — the war itself — is unlikely to end anytime soon, I also don’t think it will necessarily turn into something ultra-prolonged or escalate into full-scale war. So overall, I’m still fairly optimistic about Dubai’s future.
Maodi: So when it comes to this wartime situation, are the people around you — especially the friends still in Dubai — generally still pretty optimistic?
Jarseed: I think people around me have very different views on this. From my own experience, how deeply you understand the history behind Iran, Israel, and the wider Middle East — including countries like Saudi Arabia and the role of the US — has a huge impact on how you judge both the current conflict and where it may go next.
If you understand more of the background, you start looking at things like divisions within different Muslim factions, and even claims around the removal of Khamenei — who some would view as a relatively moderate Shia leader. There’s also the question of whether the US has been trying to back a more compliant replacement, which so far doesn’t appear to have worked, or at least not yet. From there, the chain of conflicts that could follow is, in my view, extremely hard to predict.
But if someone isn’t that interested in the sectarian, religious, and historical roots of the conflict — or simply doesn’t know much about them — then they may just interpret this as a conventional military clash or a resource-driven conflict. And once you frame it that way, your conclusions can look completely different.
Will This Round of Conflict Undermine Dubai’s Status as a Crypto Hub?
Maodi: Could this latest round of conflict weaken Dubai’s position as a crypto hub? A lot of people in crypto still think with a finance mindset at the end of the day, which means they’re naturally more risk-averse. And this time, some people really have started leaving Dubai for places like Hong Kong, Singapore, or the US. Do you think that kind of movement could turn into a broader trend and actually change Dubai’s standing?
Jarseed: I do think it’ll have some impact. Because through this conflict, people have already seen what can happen when a country or a city gets caught in geopolitical friction or regional instability. Of course, from a day-to-day perspective, it still doesn’t feel that severe yet. But if things keep escalating and start materially affecting everyone’s lives, then it becomes a very different story.
Especially like you said, for people in finance or for high-net-worth individuals, risk avoidance is always going to be a top priority. And honestly, I think we’re also at a pretty critical turning point right now. The US and the dollar themselves are being tested in a meaningful way this time. Whether that eventually leads to some kind of historic shift is hard to say. We’ll have to watch it play out.
But going back to my main point: now that people have seen the kind of consequences geopolitical instability can bring, I do think quite a few will choose to reduce risk exposure.
Maodi: Speaking personally then, are you planning to stay in Hong Kong for the long run, or once things calm down in Dubai, would you still consider going back?
Jarseed: For now, I’m still in wait-and-see mode.
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